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“The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing.” Walt Disney
“The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing.”
Walt Disney
I have been hosting a podcast for over nine years. During that time, I have been introduced to some amazing people including Dave Pelzer, the author of A Child Called It, and James Clear, the author of Atomic Habits.
Being a podcast host has opened many doors for me allowing me to become active with various speaking platforms over the last few years. Being visible and seen as an authority is critical to business growth and business success especially since we do more things virtually than live.
So how do find speaking opportunities? Great question and of course I have an expert to share her valuable insights and strategies to get you seen and heard.
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My motivational quote is by the amazing Walt Disney. Walt says, “The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing.” I’ve been doing the show for several years. During that time, I’ve been introduced to some of the most amazing people and authors out there. I’ve interviewed Dave Pelzer, who was the author of A Child Called It, James Clear, the author of Atomic Habits, and the list goes on now.
Being a host has opened many doors for me and allowed me to become more active with various platforms over the last few years. Now, being visible and being seen as an authority is critical for business growth and business success, especially since we’re doing more things like this, which is virtual versus live. How do you find these speaking opportunities? That’s a great question. I have an expert for you who’s going to share some remarkable valuable insights and strategies to get you to be seen and heard.
My guest is Jackie Lapin. Jackie helps leaders, authors, coaches, speakers, and entrepreneurs connect with new followers from around the globe. She’s an expert at aiding you to get booked using strategies, guidance, and leads through her SpeakerTunity programs. In that program, she includes tip sheets, regional and niche, specialty directories, getting changemakers books for speaking engagements, radio shows, podcasts, virtual summits, TEDx events, and virtual networking across North America. SpeakerTunity is the ultimate speaker’s toolbox. Please help me welcome Jackie to the show. She’s amazing. This is her zone of genius, peeps. Jackie, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your wisdom.
About Jackie Lapin: Jackie helps leaders, authors, coaches, speakers, and entrepreneurs connect with new followers from around the globe. She is an expert at aiding you to GET BOOKED, using strategies, guidance, and leads through her SpeakerTunity® programs. Including tip sheets, regional and niche specialty directories getting changemakers booked for speaking engagements, radio shows, podcasts, virtual summits, TEDx events, and virtual networking across North America. SpeakerTunity® is the Ultimate Speaker’s Toolbox. Jackie’s internationally acclaimed Conscious Media Relations Radio/Podcast Tours have helped nearly 200 leaders, filmmakers, and authors grow their businesses, sell more books, create viewership, and change more lives by introducing them to up to 9000 radio shows and podcasts. How to Get in Touch with Jackie Lapin: Website: SpeakerTunity Email: Jackie@speakertunity.com Free Gift: 44 Ways to Seduce Your Next Client One Month Free
Jackie helps leaders, authors, coaches, speakers, and entrepreneurs connect with new followers from around the globe. She is an expert at aiding you to GET BOOKED, using strategies, guidance, and leads through her SpeakerTunity® programs. Including tip sheets, regional and niche specialty directories getting changemakers booked for speaking engagements, radio shows, podcasts, virtual summits, TEDx events, and virtual networking across North America. SpeakerTunity® is the Ultimate Speaker’s Toolbox.
Jackie’s internationally acclaimed Conscious Media Relations Radio/Podcast Tours have helped nearly 200 leaders, filmmakers, and authors grow their businesses, sell more books, create viewership, and change more lives by introducing them to up to 9000 radio shows and podcasts.
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Thank you for inviting me, Connie. With everything that’s going on in the world, if you’re not speaking, you’re really missing the point. Talking about speaking, we’re talking about multiple platforms. It’s not just live and virtual stages these days. Speaking is also radio shows and podcasts. Speaking is also a virtual summit. Speaking is TEDx. All of these are marketing opportunities that if you are not doing them, you are leaving money on the table.
I want to talk about all of them and how you get them to be visible because visibility is the key to getting new clients that are going to transform your business. If you’re sitting on the sidelines, your business is probably going to be stale. If you are out speaking, you’re going to be creating a steady flow of new clients. I want to talk about each of those different platforms.
I want to comment quickly. It goes back to my Walt Disney quote. Stop being on the sidelines. You have to do something differently to create a different result, which is the definition of insanity. Additionally, what you just said is important because doing the speaking builds the like, know, trust, and remember factors. You become memorable because now you’re not just a written copy. There’s this live energy behind you that becomes very memorable. The first question is, what should one do to start building a calendar of these speaking opportunities?
The first thing you need to do is you have to commit the time to it. If you say, “I’m going to get to it sometime this week,” I guarantee you, as busy as we all are, that is not going to happen. You have to make an appointment with yourself. Put three hours a week every week into your calendar to focus on getting booked. When you do that, you’re going to see a transformation in your ability to get booked. You have to commit that time. That is the first and foremost thing you need to do.
Where we focus, that’s where magic starts to happen. You have to have attention to it. Can you give us some sample ways or examples to find local engagements? Would that be more live than virtual or both?
If you’re looking to get booked locally, which frankly, locals love locals is really a great place to start. Keep in mind that you’re still even talking virtual and live locally because a lot of people are not back in a room. There are several places that you can start looking for these. One of which is Google. I know people say, “It’s just Google.” Trust me, we have 170,000 speaking opportunities in our SpeakerTunity database that’s parsed by your region, 75 regional directories, or parsed by your specialty. All of that is done strictly by going to Google.
You want to put in the keywords that you need for the opportunity you want, whether that’s business networking, spiritual centers, parenting, or whatever it is, plus your marketplace. You want to identify the meeting that you want and then your marketplace, whatever the city is that you’re looking for. Go into those places and find out who the coordinator is for each of those meetings. That’s the first.
Meetup is another great resource because not only do they have Meetup-specific meetings, but a lot of the organizations that have been long established, either in the room or some kind of physical are using Meetup as a way to attract new people. In Meetup, you can sort by either region or you can sort by your specialty of interest. You can then also register and it will send you meetings in your genre.
The last one is Eventbrite. When you think of Eventbrite as one-off meetings, they have started doing a lot of recurring meetings. If you go in there and you find meetings that appear to be recurring, then you can reach out to the coordinator and say, “Do you have an opportunity for speaking?” Those are three great ways to find local speaking gigs.
We have a great resource in SpeakerTunity and we’ve identified 75 individual markets. In those individual markets, we find all of the speaking gigs in business, which is divided into 55 industries, ethnicities, and gender if you want business meetings, women’s business meetings, entrepreneurs, real estate or healthcare, and then all the service groups.
Even if you’re in Canada, we’ve got the KIN clubs and club rotaries here in Toronto, and then all the places you touch the consumer, like moms groups, parenting, seniors, health and wellness support groups, people that are suffering, military, LGBT, and then things like libraries and bookstores if you’re on a book tour. The last thing is spiritual, centers for spiritual, and faith-based. If you want to saturate a market and you cross those various lines, that would be great for you.
How long have you been doing this, Jackie? You have a tremendous database that is a great one-stop shop for anybody reading. They were just great tips that someone could google if they’re thinking, “Do I want to do this?” How long have you been doing this?
We started a few years ago with SpeakerTunity, Speaker Leads, which is an individual product that gives you kind of a smorgasbord of speaking gigs all over North America, but it’s for a transformational leader. That one product is not for a business leader. It has all kinds of different things, local meetings, conferences, spiritual centers, TEDxs, retreats, everything in one, but it keeps coming. We’ve got people on that product for years. It’s only $35 a month. That’s the blessing of it. We then added our Radio Insider, which has 40 podcasts and radio shows every month in the life-enhancing space. SpeakerTunity Summits gives you virtual summits that are looking for guest presenters and also giveaways that are looking for partners so you can build your opt-in lists. You call for more summits.
Those are our legacy products, but then we realized that people wanted more regional and they wanted more business. That’s how we created cities. In the pandemic, we realized everything has gone virtual. If you want to speak all across the country just in your specialty, why don’t we aggregate that information? We have a product called SpeakerTunity Specialties, where we give you 60 individual different specialties. If you want to talk to authors, coaches, women, business owners, or parenting and seniors, whatever your niche is, we’ve got 60 of them.
The more you speak, the more speaking opportunities find you. Once COVID hit, I had done everything locally live. It was live. Now all of a sudden, people I was meeting on a network were like, “You got to come and talk at my summit.” Somebody would hear me at the summit and then I would get an email, “I saw you at Jackie Summit. Can you come and speak over here?” It builds that whole momentum of getting exposure. It’s all about the exposure.
When you’re talking about national organizations, too, when you speak at one chapter, now you have the entree to all the other chapters, which is one of the ideas behind specialties. You want all of the meetings in a group called L or all of the meetings in BNI or whatever it might be although that’s a more specialized but different kind of organization that invites speakers. We’ve identified all of them in your genre because once you’re on, you’ve got the opportunity to say, “I was on yours. Can you also open up the door in your chapter?”
That’s reciprocity. We got to build it and help each other grow. You mentioned the word conference. That one is a little more difficult than the local stuff. How do we find those conferences and get the traction there or the availability to be offered to come on?
If you’re looking for your own conference now, there’s a group called Events in America that has conferences at least six months out. You can sort them by region or overall category, like if you just want consumer events, health and wellness, manufacturing, or whatever. It will let you sort that. If you’re looking for associations, there’s an organization called the Directory of Associations, which will tell you all the associations in your state or your subject matter and you can sort that way.
I’m going to give you a little hint. Come April, we are going to have a great resource that is going to be able for you to source all of the conferences in your specialty. Stay tuned. Go to the bottom of the page at SpeakerTunity, and put your name in. We’ll let you know when that is ready. I’m happy to say that cities and specialties are what we’re launching now. Nobody has ever done that.
One of the things we realize is a lot of people look at these cities and specialties, which have thousands of speaking gigs in them. Your regional directory has anywhere from 1,500 to 3,000. Your specialty directory can have anywhere from 200 to 7,000 depending on what your specialty is. We broke that down. If you’re so overwhelmed with it, you could sort by your region. You just want the East, West, Midwest, and South of Canada and it will narrow down the sizing. I realized even then that it’s scary for people to think, “I don’t have the time to do this.”
We developed a strategic partnership with an organization called Book for You Virtual Assistants. This organization will take your directory from us and you will have a meeting with them together. You’ll get your rep name and the manager. The three of you will sit and figure out, “What in your list do you want to go after? Do you have a speaker one sheet?” We should talk about that in a minute. You are going to get weekly reports of what’s going on. Monthly, you have a meeting to get back together and say, “What’s working? What’s not working? What do we need to tweak? What looks like good possibilities?” It’s not throwing it into the osmosis. You can hire them for 20 hours a month, 40 hours a month, or 80 hours a month. It is a constantly monitored process.
COVID was bad. People died. I am not minimizing that at all. It’s tragic. The whole thing is awful, but on the flip side, these opportunities for speaking have become exponential for everyone. I speak a lot. Half of my clients are Canadian, which is so funny because I’m here in New Jersey in the United States. Your reiteration and expansion must have been crazy for the past few years. Being in that space, you all of a sudden had to see that opportunity explode and then just come to the marketplace with all of these things. Have you slept in the past few years, Jackie?
No, we have not. Here’s what we ended up doing. We started looking around and saying, “What are we missing that needs to happen?” Because it was a quiet time, that’s when we went to the 75 directories and the 60. We also added a product called the Radio Insider for Business. If you just want 40 B2B shows every month, that’s going to give that to you. We also added the speaker sheet. You can pick from the template, pick the colors, fill in the form, and we’ll get your speaker one sheet back to you in no time. We added training courses.
Just briefly, talk about the importance of having a one-sheet that when you are invited to be on a stage or whatever it is, that one sheet is impactful because whoever hosting it needs the information fast and easy. Talk about the importance of the one sheet.
The first thing is it’s a marketing sheet. First of all, you can’t pack your proposal letter with everything. This is what you attach and it gives you a full bio. It gives you some testimonials. On the backside, it gives you the three presentations that you give them a choice of. If you only have one arrow in your quiver, it better be a bullseye. The more choice you have, the more likely it is that people are going to pick you. It’s a showcase. It’s beautiful. It makes you look like a real pro. It also gives them some more information when they are presenting you to the audience as well. You’re going to define what those speaking is and they’ll use that to promote you, “Come see this person. This is what they’re going to be speaking on.” You don’t have to leave it to them to decide what to write. You’ve given them the information.
If you’re going to be on a podcast or a stage speaking, you want to make it so easy that they come back to you because they’re like, “You’re the most efficient person I’ve worked with. I want you back next time I have an event or a summit or whatever it is.” You want to make it easy for the person who’s handling the admin stuff.
There’s a new tool out there that people should be aware of. When you’re pitching yourself to podcasts and radio shows, you can use a full-on pitch letter, and we have a training program on how to write that pitch letter, or you can use a podcast introductory sheet, which is like a speaker sheet. Only it’s one page instead of two. It lists the topics that you speak on, your bio, a couple of testimonials, and the topics you speak on. You can either use that in lieu of a pitch letter or attach it to the pitch letter like you do to your proposal. It’s slick and easy. It gives the host the ability to say, “I want to talk on that topic,” or “I want to talk on all three of these or all five of these topics.” It levels up your ability to look sharp when you’re going to podcasters.
Think about that, Jackie, too. If I have three things and I end up being a great guest for whatever that platform is, now they come back and they go, “You had these other two topics. You present well. We’ve gotten some real good feedback about you. I’d love for you to come back and talk about those other two things.” If you don’t have it, they don’t know that. They think you’re a one-and-done. You’re limiting your opportunity. They’re looking at you. They’re speaking with you. Let them know, “There’s more I can do for you as well.” That’s a beautiful tool. How do you get on other people’s stages? There are a lot of summits happening now because of the virtual situation. How do we get on other people’s stages too?
Let’s talk about summits in particular. First of all, almost all summits are going to have an intake form or they’re going to ask you for your information. You should have what I call a mini media kit prepared. That summarizes, in three paragraphs, your bio and then another three paragraphs of the title and name of your presentation. Another should be the title of your freebie and then a description of that, and then your social media. All that goes on two pages. That’s it.
Now, when you go to do the summit applications, you copy-paste. If somebody says, “Send me your information,” you send the entire mini media kit. If you want to find out where those summits are, that’s what we do on the very first day of every month. We send you a complete list of summits that you can submit yourself to.
By the way, if you’re reading this and you’re planning a summit, want to get guests, and want to make it easier on yourself, and this includes giveaways, get to me. There’s an intake page at SpeakerTunity called SpeakerTunity.com/submissions. We will put it in the issue. I just needed a week before the end of the month so that we can include it and we can get you more clients. If you want to be on those, you want to subscribe to summits. It’s a great resource for you.
You did that for me, Jackie, in my last giveaway. I happened to speak to Jackie. It was a week before. She’s like, “Get it to me today.” Because I do speak a lot, I was able to send it to Jackie to get in that newsletter and to build some traction. I’m telling you. She is the one-stop shop. She’s freaking remarkable. All the pieces of the puzzle, you have made it easy. For the newbies like, “I want to do it, but I don’t know what to do,” you need to have a conversation with Jackie and use some of the resources. The funny thing too is seasoned people are connected with you because it’s constantly evolving and growing. New summits, new chapters, and new things are constantly being added.
You’re in the know because that’s your zone of genius and your business. You are a one-stop shop. I love the summits and letting them know multiple things you could talk about. By the way, people who run summits run multiple summits, everyone. You want to be on their shortlist as well. You want to leverage every opportunity to the maximum that you can. Talk about the radio shows. Do you mean radio shows or podcasts when we talk about radio shows? I’m curious.
I talk about all of them. The other thing is we do a radio podcast tour done for you under my Conscious Media Relations brand that introduces authors and leaders to 9,000 radio shows and podcasts at the same time. In that, we include radio shows, podcasts, internet radio, and satellite. We cover it all. We have a minimum guarantee of 30 interviews. We’ve been doing that for several years. We do them for people like Don Miguel Ruiz, Ariel Ford, James Twyman, Joe Vitale, Chris and Janet Attwood, Maureen St. Germain, real luminaries in the personal growth space. If you go to the website, you’re going to find 80 amazing testimonials, that say we overdeliver. I’m happy to say.
We make sure that people come away with a maximum impact. That’s one of the reasons why we can repurpose a lot of our contacts from that into our product Radio Insider. When you’re going out there, you can do it yourself. You can have us do it, but there are over a million podcasts out there. You need to take advantage of it. You just need to make sure that you’re in your sweet spot of the right kinds of podcasts for you.
They have to be where your people are going. Otherwise, you’re blowing into the wind where nobody’s going to hear your message because you’re on the wrong platform. With all of these speaking opportunities, why is it important for a leader or an expert to cultivate this skill to get on as many as they can that are in alignment with what their messaging is? Why is it important for leaders now to use this venue?
The first thing is internet marketing is changing dramatically. You’re about to lose your ability to track who’s saying yes and who’s saying no. It’s going to make it hard to do anything. The one sure thing is speaking. If you are going to be out there to increase that know, like, and trust factor, there is nothing like in person. When I say in person, I’m talking virtually as well, where people see you.
They get a sense of your authenticity. They get a sense of your knowledge. They get a sense of the fact that you are heart-based. You care about them. You are generous with your information. They get a sense that, “She knows what she’s doing. They can take me to the next level.” All of those things are things that can’t be duplicated online or even in a video series. It’s that live in-person, “Let’s get connected. I’m here to serve,” that impacts people. It cannot be overlooked whichever platform you’re on.
I tell people that if you’re still a little unsure about speaking virtually, go get on podcasts. It’s the fastest way to get up to speed and get comfortable. I used to say in my last book, I did 100 interviews. By the time I did that, I was so good on stage because I took what I was doing on the radio shows and podcasts and reinterpreted it for the stage. I was so confident. I knew exactly where I was going because I’d done it so damn many times. Use that as a starting place.
It’s a muscle memory thing. The more you do it, the easier it becomes. It becomes second nature like tying your shoe or breathing because you go into your zone. You know what you’re going to talk about because you’re the expert on whatever that topic is. You should be able to talk to it easily.
If you have any discomfort, then get yourself a good speaker coach. There are gazillions of them out there. That’s going to help you get comfortable on stage or going to help you figure out your signature speed, or they’re going to help you with your presentation skills. There are great coaches out there who will get you to the point of feeling confident on stage and able and willing to present.
Especially for your audience, which is more of a business audience, one of the stages that you should be looking at is the corporate marketplace. It’s not an easy environment to get into. We’ve got a training program on how to get booked in the corporate marketplace. That is a $386 billion marketplace. Even if you think your skills are a little soft to the corporate marketplace, since the pandemic, those organizations are thinking, “We have to be more sensitive to where our employees are.” They’re open to the topics that are not hard business that they were once only exclusively providing. They look and listen to all kinds of other stuff.
My people are corporate people, Jackie. I’ve been in corporate training and business advice in building corporate cultures for many years. That’s one of the things I teach as well. I’m glad you mentioned it. I just had a client. I have been with them for five years. It’s budget season. They reached out and said, “We need somebody for leadership,” which is more of a soft skill. Sales is a soft skill communication, but leadership is less tangible. I recommended a colleague. They said, “We need someone with writing, emails, and business letters.” I have a colleague who we brought in. In the corporate space, they’re looking for a lot more of the soft skills, the emotional intelligence, especially on the leadership side. I’m glad you mentioned that because I agree with that 100%.
A lot of it is health-oriented in mental levels, resiliency, and all those kinds of things. Here too far, we’re always considered out there on woo-woo. They realize that they’ve got a workforce that’s under incredible strain and stress and they’re breaking in many ways that they’ve never seen them break any longer. They’re looking for solutions that aren’t traditional.
There’s a tremendous opportunity there as well. Here’s the thing. If you’re unsure of your topic and your sales isn’t so great and all of the pieces that Jackie and I are talking about, you don’t want to start corporate because that could be very daunting. The opportunities are there 100%. We’re almost out of time. Here’s the bottom line. The easiest way to find whatever opportunity or platform you find the most comfortable is, if you’re a newbie or if you’re an expert in this where you’re speaking a lot and you want to amp it up for the 2022 season, Jackie’s the way to go. Jackie, I know you have a couple of free things for people as well. Can you share that? This is very generous of you. That’s why I love you because your platform is amazing, but you’re so generous in a lot of the free resources that you have for everybody. Can you share that, please?
Connie, thank you. I appreciate it. Let’s say that you get on some of these stages. Some of them either don’t let you sell from stage or you have an opportunity to sell from stage and get people into your community. You want to have a free gift to give them. However, if you think it’s just an eBook or a free consultation, you are behind the times. There are 44 different ways to seduce people into your opt-in list. This is called 44 Ways to Seduce Your Next Client from Stage, Podcast, Radio Show, Virtual Summits, and Virtual Networking. That is item number one.
Item number two, would you like to try out some of our great resources for a month free? I’m going to give you a month for all of our subscription services. SpeakerTunity, Speaker Leads 126 leads every single month all over North America. That includes Canada. Also, SpeakerTunity Radio Insider, which gives you 40 podcast radio shows and videocasts every month that are in the life-enhancing space. SpeakerTunity Radio Insider for Business gives you 40 podcast radio shows and video cases in the business-to-business space.
Also, the SpeakerTunity Summit that we’ve been talking about that gives you the virtual summits and the giveaways looking for partners. One month, try it out. See if you like it. You can try them all. You can try one. You’ll get a notice before 30 days that says either stick around and you’ll continue to get this or opt out at any time and we won’t bother you anymore. I have to tell you. We’ve got 400 people in those products. I’m thinking and hoping you’re going to stick around.
I love it. It’s important. I do think that people need to try things out sometimes. Let’s face it, Jackie. In the digital space now, there’s so much noise. You just don’t know what to trust and believe. The proof is in the pudding, “Test me out. You don’t like me. It’s cool. We part friends.” The other thing too is I love that 30-day free trial. Thank you for giving that to my peeps out there. They could get familiar with the platform. All of a sudden, you’re spending money and it’s like, “It’s going to take me fifteen days for me to get used to this platform.” Now they have 30 days to try it out to see if it’s a fit for them and then also to practice and play with it before they start putting money out of their pocket. Thank you for that.
If you still have questions, please reach out to Jackie. The time I talked to her, I hung up and I was like, “Ahh.” There was so much information in our conversation. She definitely over-delivers. Please email her and have a chat. It’s Jackie@SpeakerTunity.com. By the way, Jackie I love SpeakerTunity. It’s got such a fun ring and energy to it. Please reach out to her, ask your questions, and sign up for the free stuff.
Thank you, my friend, for being on and being so generous. It is so much information. Here’s my tip, guys. Please go back and read this. Jackie gave you in the middle of her own resources and all the robustness that she has in there. She also gave you some wonderful tips locally as well as globally for summits and stuff and resources out there for you to google. When you have a question, what do you do? You google it. That was her first recommendation.
One more thing. I have a great YouTube channel for SpeakerTunity that’s got lots of tutorials. Go over there and take advantage of them.
That’s fabulous, Jackie. Thank you. I didn’t realize that. I’m glad to know this because some of my clients are trying to break in and do different things and we’re trying to craft what their message is. That’s a great resource, too, because if they could practice using YouTube, resources, and stuff, that helps build their confidence as well before they jump in to say, “I’m ready to speak.” We got to walk before we run. I feel like you’re from soup to nuts. You have it all going on your platform.
If you’re unsure where to go, just reach out to Jackie directly at Jackie@SpeakerTunity.com. Jackie is fast-paced, and I love that because we get more information in a short period of time. Go back and re-read this multiple times. Trust me, you’ll pick up different things each time. Jackie, thank you so much for being on. I appreciate all of that great information and what you’re doing out there. You’re making it easy for us.
Thank you, Connie. It’s a joy to be here. All I’m going to tell you is don’t hide your light under a bushel. The world needs what you have.
Thank you. Amen, sister. I agree with that 100%. Thank you again, Jackie, for being on. Thank you all for joining me. I do hope you join me every episode as we question, build and discover together that no matter where you are in your business and your life, I really hope that the topics, strategies, ideas, and tips help you move the needle on whatever that next adventure is for you.
I wish you all just an inspired week of doing something, application of a new skill of a tip. Go and investigate Google, investigate SpeakerTunity, and talk to Jackie. Action creates a reaction which creates growth in your business and growth in your life. Please do that. Like Jackie said, “Don’t hide your light, shine it brightly.” Let’s change the world together. I’m truly honored to have you read. I hope that you always find value in the content of my guest with Jackie. Thank you all. Thank you, Jackie. Have a great week, everybody. See you next episode.
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